And they almost succeeded until Putin came into power and made a very strong push back and put things at place.
Why are they talking about Russia? China seems to be a more likely enemy in the long run.
One of the key issues discussed this year at the Bilderberg conference is the fact that the European and American Bilderbergers for the first time in many years, since 2002 were actually in disagreement and were somewhat at each otherís throat. The European Bilderbergers were saying to the American delegation Ė you wanted us to impose sanctions, we did and now the Russians made a deal with the Chinese.
Somebody has forgot to lock the back door and now we have the Chinese and the Russians signing this enormous gas deal worth about $400 billion knowing that the nightmare scenario for the Bilderbergers, for the Western elite, is the fact that the Chinese, the Russians and now the Iranians are working closely together, and will be working closely together. This deal that the Russians signed with the Chinese will help Kremlin reduce Russiaís reliance on gas exports to Europe. And itís proved that Putin has allies when he seeks to blunt these Western sanctions over Ukraine.
Some of the other things discussed as far as Russia and China are concerned is that both Russia and China want to assert themselves as regional powers. Both have increasingly strained relations with America, which helped them to join forces this particular way.
That said, as the American Bilderbergers reminded the rest at this yearís conference in Copenhagen, for 40 years Richard Nixon, Kissinger persuaded China to turn against the Soviet Union and ally with America. And so, there are a lot of questions asked, rhetorical questions at the Bilderberg conferences, that todayís collaboration between Russia and China amounts to a new alliance against America.
And to a certain degree they agreed that it does, but then, they also said that a silver line that they can actually see is the fact that the Russian elites can be split as a force. For example, one of the things that the Bilderbergers agreed on is that the Western banks become more reluctant to extend loans to Russia. Russia will get loans from the Chinese banks and there will show the gap.
There is another important element to keep in mind, that despite all of this Russia and China will struggle to overcome some fundamental differences. And we can see the fact that the gas deal itself, as Bilderbergers said at the conference, it took ten years to make and the deal was announced the last minute. So, how hard it was to reach an agreement?
And the European Bilderbergers from their sources were saying that the Chinese basically drove a hard bargain and got an upper hand in the deal, because Putin was desperate to reach this agreement.
There is also another element, as far as the Chinese-Russian relations where China has the upper hand, the Chinese are not only getting gas from Russia, they are getting it now from Australia and Central Asia. And when the Chinaís global power is growing, the Bilderbergers agreed that Russia is decline corroded by corruption and also unable to diversify its economy away from the natural resources.
These are some of the conclusions at the Bilderberg conference.
Another thing that the Bilderbergers are willing to do is actually play the Chinese against the Russians. They said that the Chinese Government will expect the Kremlin to recognize this historic shift in power, which is a recipe for Chinese impatience and also Russiaís resentment.
And while the two countries are untied against America, they also need a stabilizing influence. Needless to say, the Russians and the Chinese are tussling for an important Central Asia. You know, they have this enormous border. On the one side it is heavily populated by the Chinese who have no natural resources. And on the other side you have partially populated Russian part of the border with enormous quantity of commodities.
That is something that the Russians obviously need to keep in mind. And as one American at the Bilderberg said Ė despite the fact that the Russians and the Chinese have made this agreement, it will be very easy to sabotage the actual outflow of gas.
He reminded Bilderbergers that many of Russiaís tactical nuclear weapons are still pointed at China. And in the long run, the Russians and the Chinese are just as likely to fallout, according to Bilderberger, as to form an alliance.
So, expect in the near future the American and the European oligarchies and governments firmly stand behind the Chinese against the Russians.
So, what is your forecast? What kind of tactics will the Bilderbergers chose vis-ŗ-vis Russia? Is it going to be military tactics? Is it going to be financial tactics, economic or what? And the second question is Ė do you think that they will succeed in breaking the cooperation between Russia and China?
It will be difficult to do that, because both understand that the common enemy is the US, the common enemy if the Western oligarchy. And even if the Chinese decide to join the Americans temporarily, they understand that these are marriages of convenience and in the long run they will lose.
So, I donít think so. I think the Chinese and the Russians, these are the civilizations on the ground for too long and they have a very strong historical tradition in diplomacy. So, to think that the Americans can actually convince the Russians or the Chinese to break this alliance in favour of something ephemeral, I think it is going to be very-very difficult to do.
I have a very difficult time believing that the Russians or the Chinese are going to jump the gun as far as military actions are concerned. They understand what the stakes are, because the next war, if there is a war, is not going to be fought with tactical weapons, it is going to be a thermonuclear war, which very well could be the end of civilization.
But what is absolutely true, is what we are seeing today (and this is, again, part of a very important element discussed at the Bilderberger conference), not only Russia-China alliance, the Ukraineís situation, but the fact that we are seeing this rise of nationalism. Some mainstream media calls it extremism.
Marine Le Pen in France and Nigel Farage from the UKIP in England, they are not extremists at all. But we are looking at actually, and this is one of the reasons why the EU and the oligarchs on the world stage are very concerned, because we are looking at two different systems in place. One is a monetary system and the other one is a national credit system.
And whichever system wins or gets the upper hand, is the way the world is going to be run. Today the world is run by monetary system. If you are smart, you donít want the monetary system to run the world, you want sovereign nation states to have their own credit system, which is in their currency.
And above all, it is the possibility of productive noninflationary credit creation by the state, which was stated in the American constitution and was exactly for that reason excluded by Maastricht, as a method of determining economic and financial policies.
In Europe this canít be done, because in Europe the governments are subjected to control of private banking interests called independent banking system. And these institutions, they literally have the power to regulate governments and to dictate terms to governments. So, if you actually think about it, you are looking at the European Central Bank and the people at the Central Bank unelected by anyone in the world dictating terms to governments.
But there is no government, there is no nation, it is a group of nations run by a private bank. And it is insanity to belong to this system. And the idea is, what we are seeing right now with these particular private financial interests, basically, it grew up historically in Europe, itís been installed this system as an authoritative instrument of Western economic policy of sovereign governments oriented towards the general welfare.
The European banking is a remnant of this feudal society in which private interests are still fought by the ancient Venetian cartels or by the Lombard League, which went down in the Dark Ages, in the 14th century when we had the first big financial collapse in 1345.
The bubble which is about to burst is much bigger than the 1345 bubble, which destroyed most of Europe, killed half of the population as a result of the bubonic plague. And what we are seeing right now is something far worse.
And needless to say that monetary crisis we are seeing right now on the world stage, it is the reflection of the insanity imposed upon a process of destroying the physical economy of the world, because, again, the idea is that progress and development is directly proportional to population density.
So, you have technology, you have progress, you have wealth and you are going to have more people on the planet. And if you are the elite, you donít need more people, you donít need 10-20 or 30 billion people, because there is not enough food and water for everybody.
If you are the elite, the 1% of the world, you need to destroy the population or reduce it. And the way to do it is destroying the worldís economy. And Detroit is a great example of this destruction. This is the poster child for the world economy.
We are seeing the same in Latin America, we are seeing the same in Ukraine, we are seeing the same in Thailand, and we saw the same back in the 1990íes when they split up the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. So, again, what we are seeing right now in the world stage, and Ukraine is just a symptom of this, is just another piece, it is not the end game, the end game is Russia and until you destroy all the systems around it and you can actually send Russia to hell in handbasket, in order to be able to control the nation.
And until they do that, they will keep pushing any way they can, which is why it is so important that the Russian and the Chinese keep their alliance strong and understand that their common interests are far greater than anything else they can get temporarily from the Western powers.